{"id":21503,"date":"2025-06-21T18:19:52","date_gmt":"2025-06-21T17:19:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sukkatshalom-bneinoach.com\/?p=21503"},"modified":"2025-10-03T08:15:01","modified_gmt":"2025-10-03T07:15:01","slug":"do-you-need-jesuis-for-a-relationship-with-g-d-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sukkatshalom-bneinoach.com\/fr\/do-you-need-jesuis-for-a-relationship-with-g-d-no\/","title":{"rendered":"AVEZ-VOUS BESOIN DE J&#039;SUSPENS POUR UNE RELATION AVEC GD ? NON !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><strong>\u05d1\u05e1 \"\u05d3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c Croyez-vous vraiment que les lois noachides suffisent pour avoir une relation avec Dieu ? \u201d<br>C&#039;est une question honn\u00eate et souvent pos\u00e9e, notamment par les chr\u00e9tiens qui croient, d&#039;apr\u00e8s le Nouveau Testament, qu&#039;une relation avec Dieu n&#039;est possible que par l&#039;interm\u00e9diaire de J\u00e9sus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Du point de vue de la Torah, l&#039;id\u00e9e m\u00eame d&#039;avoir besoin d&#039;un interm\u00e9diaire pour s&#039;adresser \u00e0 Dieu est non seulement inutile, mais th\u00e9ologiquement inacceptable. La Torah insiste sur une relation directe, personnelle et sans interm\u00e9diaire entre chaque \u00eatre humain et son Cr\u00e9ateur. Introduire un interm\u00e9diaire, aussi v\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9 soit-il, constitue une violation des principes les plus fondamentaux du monoth\u00e9isme juif.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ainsi, non seulement on peut avoir une relation significative avec Dieu sans J\u00e9sus, mais on ne peut pas en avoir une. <em>avec<\/em> lui ou quiconque d&#039;autre comme interm\u00e9diaire. Ou, mieux dit : on ne peut avoir une v\u00e9ritable relation qu&#039;avec Dieu. <em>sans<\/em> tout interm\u00e9diaire.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cela contraste avec une croyance chr\u00e9tienne courante, fond\u00e9e sur des versets comme Jean 14:6\u00a0:<br>\u201c Je suis le chemin, la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et la vie. Nul ne vient au P\u00e8re que par moi. \u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Du point de vue de la Torah, cette affirmation contredit le principe fondamental selon lequel Dieu est Un \u2014 sans division ni partenariat \u2014 et qu&#039;Il est directement accessible \u00e0 tous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Relations avec Dieu avant J\u00e9sus<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La Bible h\u00e9bra\u00efque regorge d&#039;exemples de personnes qui entretenaient des relations \u00e9troites et personnelles avec Dieu bien avant l&#039;av\u00e8nement du christianisme\u00a0:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Abraham<\/strong> a \u00e9t\u00e9 appel\u00e9 ami de Dieu (\u00c9sa\u00efe 41:8).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Mo\u00efse<\/strong> ils ont parl\u00e9 avec Dieu face \u00e0 face (Nombres 12:8).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>David<\/strong> il a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crit comme un homme selon le c\u0153ur de Dieu (1 Samuel 13:14).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>D&#039;autres, comme No\u00e9, Anne et \u00c9lie, ont chemin\u00e9 avec Dieu dans une foi intime.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Si Dieu \u00e9tait capable et d\u00e9sireux d&#039;entrer en contact direct avec les gens avant J\u00e9sus, pourquoi cela ne serait-il plus possible aujourd&#039;hui ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Que demande Dieu pour une relation ?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>La Bible h\u00e9bra\u00efque enseigne constamment qu&#039;une relation avec Dieu se fonde sur <strong>ob\u00e9issance, amour, respect et confiance<\/strong>. Il ne s&#039;agit pas de l\u00e9galisme, mais de fid\u00e9lit\u00e9 \u2013 vivre en accord avec les attentes morales de Dieu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Voici quelques exemples :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Deut\u00e9ronome 11:13<\/strong> \u201c Aimer le Seigneur ton Dieu et le servir de tout ton c\u0153ur et de toute ton \u00e2me. \u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Exode 19:5<\/strong> \u2013 \u201c Si vous ob\u00e9issez v\u00e9ritablement \u00e0 ma voix et si vous gardez mon alliance, alors vous serez mon tr\u00e9sor pr\u00e9cieux. \u201d<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Proverbes 3:5-6<\/strong> \u201c Confie-toi en l\u2019\u00c9ternel de tout ton c\u0153ur\u2026 et il aplanira tes sentiers. \u201d<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Le message est clair : ceux qui \u00e9coutent Dieu et suivent ses voies sont accueillis et b\u00e9nis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Que signifie avoir une relation avec Dieu ?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Une relation est mutuelle. En termes humains, cela signifie communication, confiance, engagement et \u00e9volution. Une relation avec Dieu implique sensiblement la m\u00eame chose\u00a0:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Parler \u00e0 Dieu (pri\u00e8re, m\u00e9ditation)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>\u00c9couter ses paroles (\u00e9tude, r\u00e9flexion)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Vivre selon ses instructions (ob\u00e9issance \u00e9thique)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Avoir confiance en Lui, m\u00eame sans pleine compr\u00e9hension<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour les non-Juifs, cette relation est fond\u00e9e sur le <strong>Les sept lois noahides<\/strong>\u2014 des principes moraux universels donn\u00e9s \u00e0 l&#039;humanit\u00e9. Selon le Talmud, ceux qui suivent fid\u00e8lement ces lois sont appel\u00e9s <strong>Chassidei Umot HaOlam<\/strong>\u2014\u201d les pieux parmi les nations \u201d\u2014aim\u00e9s et accept\u00e9s par Dieu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Et J\u00e9sus ?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans le juda\u00efsme, J\u00e9sus est consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un <strong>Merde<\/strong>\u2014 un \u201c associ\u00e9 \u201d ou un \u201c partenaire \u201d th\u00e9ologique avec Dieu. Dans la loi juive traditionnelle, la croyance en <strong>Merde<\/strong> est <strong>semblable \u00e0 l&#039;idol\u00e2trie<\/strong>, notamment lorsqu&#039;il s&#039;agit d&#039;adoration ou de pri\u00e8re adress\u00e9e \u00e0 un \u00eatre autre que Dieu lui-m\u00eame.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La Torah d\u00e9clare, <em>\u201c Tu n\u2019auras pas d\u2019autres dieux devant Moi (al panai) \u201d<\/em> (Exode 20:3), affirmant l&#039;unicit\u00e9 absolue de Dieu. <strong>union hypostatique<\/strong> Les croyances d\u00e9fendues par ceux qui croient en la Trinit\u00e9 sont donc h\u00e9r\u00e9tiques du point de vue de la Torah. Comme il est \u00e9crit\u00a0: <em>\u201c Il est notre Dieu ; il n\u2019y en a point d\u2019autre. \u201d<\/em> (Deut\u00e9ronome 4:35).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Le principe juif fondamental de l&#039;unicit\u00e9 de Dieu s&#039;exprime dans <strong>Deut\u00e9ronome 6:4<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c \u00c9coute, Isra\u00ebl ! L\u2019\u00c9ternel, notre Dieu, est un seul \u00c9ternel. \u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En droit de la Torah, le concept de <em>Shetuf<\/em>\u2014associer un autre \u00eatre divin \u00e0 Dieu \u2014 s\u2019apparente \u00e0 l\u2019idol\u00e2trie, comme le dit le verset : \u201c Tu n\u2019auras pas d\u2019autres dieux. \u00bb <em>avec moi<\/em> (<em>al panai<\/em>L\u2019union hypostatique pr\u00f4n\u00e9e par les croyants en la Trinit\u00e9 est donc h\u00e9r\u00e9tique du point de vue de la Torah. Comme il est \u00e9crit\u00a0: \u201d\u00a0Il est notre Dieu\u00a0; il n\u2019y en a point d\u2019autre.\u00a0\u201c<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pr\u00e9senter un partenaire ou un interm\u00e9diaire \u00e0 Dieu compromet cette unit\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Que disent les sources halakhiques ?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Ma\u00efmonide (Rambam) enseigne que croire en un interm\u00e9diaire ind\u00e9pendant, tel que J\u00e9sus, est une forme d&#039;idol\u00e2trie et est interdit m\u00eame aux non-Juifs. Rabbi Moshe Isserles (Rema), s&#039;appuyant sur les commentateurs talmudiques connus sous le nom de Tosafot, soutient que, bien que la croyance en <em>merde<\/em> Bien que cela ne soit certainement pas id\u00e9al et soit interdit, cela ne place pas n\u00e9cessairement un non-Juif en violation formelle de l&#039;interdiction de l&#039;idol\u00e2trie, \u00e0 condition que cela n&#039;implique pas de culte.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Cependant, toute forme de culte, y compris les prosternations, les offrandes de sacrifices ou les pri\u00e8res \u00e0 un <em>merde<\/em>\u2014est clairement consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme de l&#039;idol\u00e2trie, m\u00eame pour les non-Juifs. Il convient de pr\u00e9ciser que <em>merde<\/em> n&#039;est permis \u00e0 personne ; en effet, selon le Rema, y croire par erreur ne constitue pas automatiquement une idol\u00e2trie pour un non-Juif. N\u00e9anmoins, un Noachide consciencieux et croyant n&#039;envisagerait jamais l&#039;id\u00e9e de <em>merde<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Le <strong>Chatam Sofer<\/strong> conclut :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201c L\u2019opinion dominante est qu\u2019un non-Juif est responsable du culte qu\u2019il rend au Shetuf auquel il croit. \u201d<br><em>(Choulchan Aruch, Orach Ha\u00efm 156)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00eame la simple association mentale de Dieu avec une autre entit\u00e9 pendant le culte est interdite selon <strong>Sefer Mitzvot Gadol (SMa\u201dG)<\/strong>, que l&#039;autre nom soit mentionn\u00e9 ou non.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>R\u00e9sum\u00e9 de ce qui est permis aux non-Juifs<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><thead><tr><th><strong>Pratique<\/strong><\/th><th><strong>Permis?<\/strong><\/th><th><strong>Notes<\/strong><\/th><\/tr><\/thead><tbody><tr><td>Croyance en un Shetuf (mentalement)<\/td><td>Non (mais pas punissable comme idol\u00e2trie selon Rema)<\/td><td>Toujours interdit selon la perspective de la Torah\u00a0; possibilit\u00e9 d\u2019\u00e9chapper \u00e0 une punition si aucun culte n\u2019est impliqu\u00e9 (Rema)<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>Culte d&#039;un Shetuf (pri\u00e8re, offrandes, etc.)<\/td><td>Non<\/td><td>Consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme de l&#039;idol\u00e2trie, m\u00eame pour les non-Juifs<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>R\u00e9flexions finales<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Oui, les non-Juifs peuvent absolument avoir une relation directe et profonde avec Dieu.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Cette relation est fond\u00e9e sur la confiance, l&#039;ob\u00e9issance, l&#039;amour et le respect.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>La Bible h\u00e9bra\u00efque est claire\u00a0: Dieu a toujours cherch\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00eatre connu et aim\u00e9 directement.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Il y a <strong>pas de barri\u00e8re<\/strong> dans la Bible h\u00e9bra\u00efque qui emp\u00eache les non-Juifs de conna\u00eetre, d&#039;aimer et de marcher avec Dieu \u2014 sur <strong>Son<\/strong> termes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Chaque \u00eatre humain a un acc\u00e8s direct \u00e0 Dieu. Aucun interm\u00e9diaire n&#039;est n\u00e9cessaire.<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:100px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Par Angelique Sijbolts<br>Merci au rabbin Tani Burton pour ses commentaires.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a id=\"_msocom_1\"><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00a9 Copyright, tous droits r\u00e9serv\u00e9s. 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